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Soden Rah
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.12.31 20:09:00 -
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Originally posted in features and ideas it has been suggested that this should be in this forum so I am reposting. here is the original post and a link to the http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1440598
I like several of the new ship designs and as a fully paid up member of eve I would like to join in and vote.
But...
I AM NOT AND NEVER WILL BE a member of Facebook. I object to being forced to use a third party site dedicated to data mining customers to sell advertising to vote on your competition. I strongly urge you to make your own IN-HOUSE voting system so your paying customers can use it without having to use some random third-party site many of us have a deep objection to.
Anyone else who thinks we should be able to vote without joining Facebook please sign here. Even if this doesn't effect this vote it might effect subsequent competitions.
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.12.31 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Windjammer
P.S. OP, your link is giving a 404 error message.
sigh. I normally get those things right. Wasn't paying attention when I made it. Now fixed. Not thats its hugely important but fixed anyway. And thanks for the heads up I wouldn't have noticed otherwise. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.01.05 23:22:00 -
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Not wanting to get in the middle of a rather entertaining argument, helpfully keeping this thread nice and visible, but... While I personally dislike Facebook (as do many others as demonstrated here) this is not a referendum on the merits of Facebook per say. Claiming it is a spying tool for the CIA whether true or not is not giving us the credability I was aiming for.
I, as a subscription paying customer of CCP simply want to be able to participate in an eve related competition without having to join any third party website good or bad. The fact that many people have a deep and well founded dislike of Facebook just adds insult to injury.
I don't care why CCP decided to host the vote on Facebook. I don't care if itĘs a publicity exercise in getting more customers, or they are just too lazy to code their own voting mechanism... Whatever their reason, I believe that not giving us the option of using in house voting without having to join a third party website is wrong. I created this thread to convey this opinion to CCP and see if anyone else agreed. I am deeply gratified that not only do a good number of people agree but are prepared to take the time to post in this thread in support.
Given that I would like to suggest that CCP A) Responds to explain themselves, and B) Gives us the ability to vote on the many well designed spaceships their customers have spent many hours on producing without having to join Facebook (preferably with an extension to the voting period to allow for the time they take to rectify this oversight).
I don't expect to get either of those so I hope that you will all continue to support this thread till they do.
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.01.06 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Soden Rah on 06/01/2011 14:57:48
Originally by: TeaDaze We (CSM5) argued against this Facebook only voting system but in the end this is a marketing driven decision and CCP have a hard on for Facebook right now.
Thank you for posting this, and I welcome the CSM's position on this issue.
I have no issue with CCP advertising on Facebook, or anywhere else for that matter.
I DO have an issue with them making eve related content ONLY available via third party websites. If CCP wanted to advertise eve and/or this competition on Facebook then thatĘs fine, BUT the voting should have happened ONLY on CCP's own websites and the Facebook adds should simply have directed people here.
If CCP's decision was purely a marketing and PR one, which they have every intention of repeating I would hope we can make it clear that this is unacceptable, and that a petition like this WILL appear EVERY time they outsource eve content.
I would hope that the CSM would bring this issue back up with CCP with the added ammunition of having a large and p****d off player base behind them.
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.01.09 13:44:00 -
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Bump. because this is important and shouldn't slip off the CSM's / CCP's radar. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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Soden Rah
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.01.18 15:05:00 -
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Bump.
Still waiting for CCP to respond/apologise.
Also thanks to all those who have supported this issue. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Tuxford bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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